Saturday, May 21, 2005

All Tomorrow's Tupperware Parties

I've been trying very hard to not say anything about Tomorrow.sg here, because it's still early and because the team behind it includes a few people I hold in high regard. It's been over a month now, though, and it's about time I ejected this elephant from my living room.

Tomorrow.sg sucks. No offence to mb, La Idler or the conspicuously invisible Adri, but it does. What could have been Singapore's BoingBoing or Volokh Conspiracy or something in between has instead turned out as (continuing in that High Concept vein) Her World meets Chicken Soup for the Singaporean Soul, with a sprinkling of bafflingly punchline-free humour posts, bafflingly pointless news items and the simply baffling. Rarely have I seen so much cachet expended on so inconsequential a venture.

What's missing? In a word, focus. 11 editors (not contributors—editors!) is overkill to begin with; I would call it 'blogging by committee', but committees at least have agendas to guide them. Tomorrow, perhaps allowing what the the word connotes (bias, spin) to overwhelm what it denotes ('A list or program of things to be done or considered'), has an unwarranted phobia of agendas—

We are just a bunch of Singapore bloggers trying to kick Straits Time ass do bo liao things. Really, this comes from a bloggers dinner we have dunno how long ago, sound like a fun idea and so we just do it.

Don't ask us what this is for - we don't know also.

Don't ask us what's our agenda - we don't have one (except to bring interesting articles written from bloggers in Singapore together.)

That sounds like a focus, but it really isn't. What is an interesting article? 11 people naturally have 11 different ideas of 'interesting', and some of them are rather. . . undemanding? Eclecticism can be a good thing, but there's no utility in a spotlight that shines on absofuckinglutely everything. There comes a point when simply clicking the Next Blog button on the Blogger toolbar starts to look like an attractive alternative to following the links highlighted by Tomorrow.sg.

What I'd do, in no particular order:

1) Realise that 'agenda' is not a dirty word. Then decide on an actual agenda, and follow it.

2) Include a little more commentary along with the links when their newsworthiness isn't blindingly obvious. 'Anonymous letters are the saddest' is not sufficient to justify the inclusion of a common or garden letter 'From a deeply hurt Daughter', nor is 'Jay-Walk ponders the multiethnic staff at Kandang Kerbau' justification enough to link to a post that amounts to 'My wife delivered and by the way KKH has workers from a few different races and they work together in harmony just like in the ads!'

If you're posting a link, that means you think it's worth reading; as the reader, I expect you to tell me, briefly, why.

3) Lose the dead wood. For instance, TinkerTailor is doing no one any favours with commentary like 'dunno how they did the study' when the answer took up two whole paragraphs of the page linked. RTFA, n00b.

4) Raise the bar. How high? High enough to exclude maudlin, commonplace crap like this anyway. If I wanted adolescent (in spirit, anyway) ramblings on luurve, I would go to LiveJournal.

Come on, guys. Surely you can do better.

33 Comments:

Blogger akikonomu said...

I've already written it off as a virtual Potemkin village in my blogs, but let's see how long it takes for this post to be ridiculed at tomorrow.

7:01 PM  
Blogger jseng said...

diversity and lack of agenda is a core founding principle of tomorrow.sg so i dont think it is going to be changed anytime soon.

in the meantime, i suggest you setup your own tomorrow.sg with the principles you suggested here. the tools are available from my website if you need and it isn't difficult to do so. no, i am serious - in the long run, all of us benefit to know what works and what doesn't.

talk is cheap. action more important.

8:11 PM  
Blogger Nicholas said...

diversity and lack of agenda is a core founding principle of tomorrow.sg so i dont think it is going to be changed anytime soon.

Then perhaps suckage is the nature of the beast.

in the meantime, i suggest you setup your own tomorrow.sg with the principles you suggested here.

No interest, sorry.

talk is cheap. action more important.

BEEP! Sorry, but being a blogger makes this argument off-limits to you.

8:36 PM  
Blogger calm one said...

"1) Realise that 'agenda' is not a dirty word. Then decide on an actual agenda, and follow it."

i'd like to think that our 'agenda' is still evolving, and Tomorrow along with it.

i do see some merit in your critique, and this should spark off some soul-searching discussions between the editors.

yes, it's been a month already. but we're busy people (we're not in NS).

have a nice day =)

8:52 PM  
Blogger jseng said...

"suckage" we shall be then! :-)

BEEP! Sorry, I think you are an insult to all bloggers out there.

12:37 AM  
Anonymous Benedict Arnold said...

I hate to agree because I'm buds with one of the editors, but I have to. Nicholas has articulated very well a lot of the reservations I have with Tomorrow.sg. The editors have no obligation to put together something I want, nor am I demanding they do. But the 'suckage' is real. And jibes about Nicholas being in NS is a pretty damn cheap shot. I believe in 'freedom' of speech and all, but I'd sure like to see the editors stop being so defensive about the site.

3:25 AM  
Blogger wandie said...

Seeing that my submission to Tomorrow was mentioned...

I did have a writeup in mind for the 'sad letter to mom' entry. I was contemplating if I should have added personal commentary about how such 'backward' bias and maltreatment of girls still exists in Singaporean families and yadda yadda.

But I ended up deleting the entire thing. Why? Dunno. I guess I'm as clueless as they. I'm not sure where Tomorrow's posts are heading. Does it simply want to be a linkdump to the actual blogs/stories? Or does it want to host a discussion for each submitted article (which might explain why they've allowed for comments in all posts)? If it's the latter, then I really would support the call for submitters to frame up their posts. I suggest looking at plastic.com for inspiration. It's a current affairs discussion site where writups are created, critiqued and voted for by fellow users. But one has to wonder how much one can write about to describe a single blog entry.

One month may be too early to tell. I say give it a year to grow.

8:08 AM  
Blogger zhi yang said...

If you're posting a link, that means you think it's worth reading; as the reader, I expect you to tell me, briefly, why.

If you do visit Tomorrow.sg and when you try to recommend an article (which I doubt you do so). You will be greeted with the following text.

"The longer the entry, the less likely we will publish it so keep it short. If you're dying to make a comment, say it on your own blog. Give us your grandmother story and we will edit it down, if we ever decided to publish it."

From this, it is evident that Tomorrow's stance is very different from that of Boing Boing's, in which BB actually demands you to describe what you are submitting to them.

I'm sure Tomorrow will sort out by itself as it matures.

11:26 AM  
Blogger Nicholas said...

Calm One, all the best.

James: I'm crushed.

Wandie: It's hardly your fault; that sort of thing is for the editors to decide on and make clear to the contributors.

Anyway, I can see no reason not to include of a one- or two-liner along the lines you mention even if Tomorrow's meant to be just a huge linkdump. Look at the way plasticbag.org (or Adri, for that matter) for examples of linkdumps done right.

Zhi Yang, Tomorrow's stance on this is exactly what I'm criticising.

6:14 PM  
Blogger Nicholas said...

Erratum: Look at plasticbag.org (or Adri, for that matter) for examples of linkdumps done right.

6:15 PM  
Blogger Nicholas said...

I forgot to mention this: BoingBoing also has the right idea in having the editors write the accompanying text, only including the submitter's comments if they fit the post. The submission of entry written by reader --> moderation by editor --> publication of entry system results in a lack of a consistent voice.

9:45 PM  
Blogger akikonomu said...

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10:27 PM  
Blogger akikonomu said...

I think credit must be given for some of the editors for acknowledging some sort of problem exists.

1. I hope the editors keep in mind the points raised in the post, and compare tomorrow to this similar link aggregator site. I can find precious little separating the (lack of) agenda, type of articles, choice of articles posted in both sites. Precious little, aside from the fact that Singaporespeaks is run by just one individual, who at least bothers to write thoughtful 1 or 2-liners for his links!

2. Further credit should be given for the editors for admitting tomorrow.sg isn't quite ready for prime time ("One month may be too early to tell. I say give it a year to grow" and "I'm sure Tomorrow will sort out by itself as it matures.")

If the site isn't ready at all, then...
Why the international media hype for tomorrow.sg?
Why play along with the hype?
Why foster the hype?

10:50 PM  
Blogger Nicholas said...

(It ought to be pointed out that Wandie and Zhi Yang aren't editors, only contributors.)

12:07 AM  
Anonymous tessa said...

i'm going to be lazy and repeat what i posted in another comment on wurh's blog:

a thought: yes, it’s only been a month. but bear in mind that tomorrow.sg took a relatively short time to come to fruition once the editors stopped bandying around the idea and got down to business. things evolve so fast on the internet that i think we can’t really hold this issue against a conventional yardstick.

1:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the comments here reminds me of the exchange between a very important man and a lad called Jamie Han not too long ago…

11:36 AM  
Blogger xenoboysg said...

ButterMilk,

Good post and very valid points. they have a potentiality which they are not realizing. Instead, it is becoming a node of diffuse XiaXues.

Must admit I am surprised at the ulra-defensive responses by Tommorow. Perhaps, I will cross swords too.

8:47 PM  
Blogger Nicholas said...

Thanks, but fucking hell, man, do you have to be so melodramatic? No one's 'cross[ing] swords' with anybody. TT and James are twats, but by and large, I'm cool with the Tomorrow team. This is a critique written in the style that my critiques usually are, not a declaration of war.

8:55 PM  
Blogger xenoboysg said...

Ahaha chill chill ... i was just speaking metaphorically, no war for Xenoboy when political manipulation suffices hehe perhaps it was your NS post that got me militaristic

11:11 PM  
Blogger brandon said...

for the same reasons as you, i've not visited tomorrow.sg more than twice, and that was in its first week. i'm back there now and nothing's changed. it's like browsing a stranger's photo album without the benefit of narration or annotation.

i could be wrong, but it doesn't look like an editor has to approve an entry for it to appear on the front page. that's the only conclusion i can draw from an anonymously submitted link about someone's visit to Ya Kun Kaya appearing on the front page.

if all it's trying to do is comprehensively summarize the mean blogging output of a nation, with little or no editorial intervention, then you're going to get a distillation that curiously echoes the makeup of said nation's writing: mostly crap. honestly, whenever i click Next Blog on blogger's surfbar, singapore blogs make up a percentage of the results that is inversely proportionate to the country's global population contribution, and our blogs are approximately 90% unreadable junk produced by our freakishly computer-literate pre-teens and mildly illiterate masses.

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